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标题: 菊厂在UK的5G份额到2023年全部清零 [查看完整版帖子] [打印本页]

时间: 2020-5-23 08:12

作者: digfact 标题: 菊厂在UK的5G份额到2023年全部清零

Boris Johnson forced to reduce Huawei’s role in UK’s 5G networksto zero by 2023

https://www.google.it/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/technology/2020/may/22/boris-johnson-forced-to-reduce-huaweis-role-in-uks-5g-networks

时间: 2020-5-23 08:30

作者: mryuri

哦嚯

时间: 2020-5-23 08:36

作者: hotheart

HK的影响吧
也没办法，你不搞他，他就来搞你

时间: 2020-5-23 08:49

作者: vippirate

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时间: 2020-5-23 08:55

作者: HWZTEALUERCSNSN

爱立信和诺鸡鸭滚熊出去吧

时间: 2020-5-23 08:56

作者: digfact

HWZTEALUERCSNSN 发表于 2020-5-23 08:55
爱立信和诺鸡鸭滚熊出去吧

诺基亚已经基本没份额了。

时间: 2020-5-23 09:25

作者: HWZTEALUERCSNSN

digfact 发表于 2020-05-23 08:56:23 诺基亚已经基本没份额了。

爱立信也滚

时间: 2020-5-23 09:45

作者: CTUSER

35%最多，早就明说了。

时间: 2020-5-23 10:30

作者: 深圳普通用户

本帖最后由深圳普通用户于 2020-5-23 10:31 编辑

HWZTEALUERCSNSN 发表于 2020-5-23 09:25
爱立信也滚

E的那点份额和它的报价，他们本身也不是很care了。你们做事做得太绝了，自己吃香的喝辣的，别人汤都不给一口。

时间: 2020-5-23 11:19

作者: 淡定淡定

脱钩是大势所趋啊

时间: 2020-5-23 11:22

作者: slayerafei

深圳普通用户发表于 2020-5-23 10:30
E的那点份额和它的报价，他们本身也不是很care了。你们做事做得太绝了，自己吃香的喝辣的，别人汤都不给一 ...

对内重拳出击?

时间: 2020-5-23 12:03

作者: 枫叶荻花秋瑟瑟

可以将美帝、英国强制退役的设备运回来，利用其中的零部件，也可为国内运营商做备件

时间: 2020-5-23 13:14

作者: slayerafei

枫叶荻花秋瑟瑟发表于 2020-5-23 12:03
可以将美帝、英国强制退役的设备运回来，利用其中的零部件，也可为国内运营商做备件

卖出去的东西所有权还归菊厂?

时间: 2020-5-23 16:12

作者: coffee198375

明年的事情都说不准，还2023年。。。。

时间: 2020-5-23 16:24

作者: hawk007

The Prime Minister plans to reduce Huawei’s involvement in Britain’s 5G network in the wake of the coronavirus outbreak, the Telegraph has learned.

Boris Johnson has instructed officials to draw up plans that would see China’s involvement in the UK’s infrastructure scaled down to zero by 2023.

It comes as Mr Johnson is poised to visit the US for the G7 summit next month in his first trip abroad since the crisis began.

Having called for the UK to become more self-sufficient and less reliant on China for goods, he is expected to ramp up trade talks with US President Donald Trump as Brexit negotiations with the EU have become increasingly fractious.

The rethinking of the Huawei deal follows a growing backlash among Tory MPs against Chinese investment following the global pandemic, which originated in Wuhan.

The Communist state has been accused of covering up the initial scale of the infection while Chinese hackers are suspected of breaking into US Covid-19 research. A recent cyber attack which exposed the data of around nine million easyJet customers has been also linked to Beijing.

There is mounting suspicion in the West over Beijing’s repeated attempts to leverage economic advantage from the disaster.

Conservative MPs had previously liked Huawei to “heroin” and argued the “rushed” deal had angered allies and left Britain “utterly friendless” after members of the Five Eyes alliance raised fears over spying.

Insiders have told the Telegraph Mr Johnson always had “serious concerns” about the 5G agreement, which was brokered by Theresa May’s government, but signed off by her successor in January.

A well-placed source said: “He still wants a relationship with China but the Huawei deal is going to be significantly scaled back. Officials have been instructed to come up with a plan to reduce Huawei’s involvement as quickly as possible.

“He has taken a great many soundings from his own MPs on this issue and shares their serious concerns. The deal was struck before the pandemic hit but coronavirus has changed everything.”

The revelation came as Downing Street revealed ministers were in close contact with Washington over President Trump’s proposals to hold a number of G7 sessions at the White House and Camp David from June 10-13.

The Commander-in-chief has been highly critical of the UK’s decision to allow Huawei to build 35 per cent of its network, despite Britain branding the Shenzhen-based telecoms giant a “high risk vendor”.

He threatened to restrict Britain's access to Five Eyes intelligence which is gathered and shared by the US, UK, Australia, New Zealand and Canada, following what was described as an “apoplectic” phone call with the Prime Minister over the deal in February. Mike Pence, US vice-president, said afterwards that the Huawei decision that the Trump administration had made its disappointment at the UK decision “very clear to them”.

President Trump has led the global outcry over China’s role in the coronavirus crisis, accusing authorities of manipulating information and failing to adequately warn other countries about its deadly nature.

In its latest power grab, China on Friday set in motion a controversial national security law for Hong Kong, bypassing its lawmakers, in a move seen as an attempt to stifle the city’s special freedoms. The UK, Australia and Canada released a joint statement condemning the move, saying it undermined the principle of ‘One Country, Two Systems’ under which Hong Kong is guaranteed a high degree of autonomy.

时间: 2020-5-23 16:26

作者: hawk007

UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson is looking to scale back how much equipment from Huawei is being used in British 5G networks, according to a report Friday. The plan could see the Chinese networking giant completely removed from the UK's next-gen mobile networks by 2023, the Telegraph said.

时间: 2020-5-23 16:27

作者: hawk007

早该这样了

时间: 2020-5-23 16:29

作者: hawk007

coffee198375 发表于2020-05-23 16:12:46 <p>明年的事情都说不准，还2023年。。。。</p>

慢慢拆，慌啥？你以为都像你们一夜就搬完了？

时间: 2020-5-23 16:38

作者: 淡定淡定

前几年欧洲有些人反对用华为5G，爱立信和诺基亚还帮华为说话，现在诺基亚没资格说话了，爱立信站出来。

时间: 2020-5-23 16:51

作者: hawk007

Boris Johnson has been forced to cave into to Conservative backbench rebels opposed to the presence of Huawei in 5G networks and has drawn up plans to reduce the Chinese company’s involvement to zero by 2023.
The prime minister’s retreat is designed to stave off what could have been an embarrassing defeat when his existing proposal to reduce Huawei to a 35% market share was to be voted on in the Commons.
Although Johnson boasts an 80 strong majority, the number of Conservative MPs willing to rebel on the issue is now estimated to be 50 – enough in theory to defeat the government – as anti-Chinese sentiment hardens in the light of the coronavirus crisis.

时间: 2020-5-23 16:52

作者: hawk007

The mooted retreat will delight the White House which has been relentlessly campaigning against Huawei, but is likely to provoke a hostile reaction from Beijing, which has believed the UK was open to inward investment until now.
The original plan was signed off as recently as January with the support of Britain’s intelligence agencies. They argued that any risks that Huawei equipment could be exploited for mass surveillance could be contained.

时间: 2020-5-23 16:53

作者: hawk007

But political concerns about the Chinese company lingered. The rebels forced a vote on an unrelated telecoms bill in early March, and 38 Conservative MPs voted with the opposition after Johnson refused to slash Huawei’s market share to zero.
At the time, that was not enough to defeat No 10 but sources close to the rebels said a growing number of the 2019 intake of MPs were ready to vote against the government, in a sign of escalating geo-political tension with China.

时间: 2020-5-23 16:53

作者: hawk007

As the coronavirus crisis worsened, China has been accused of not being transparent about the early phases of the disease – while tension has also risen further as Beijing has recently threatened to impose a new national security law on Hong Kong.
Senior ministers also want to reduce the UK’s economic dependance on China for essential goods in the light of the crisis and have begun to draw up “Project Defend” aimed at boosting British self sufficiency in strategic medical and technological sectors – following warnings from intelligence agencies that the UK needed to reassess its relationship with China.
Downing Street declined to comment although sources said the reports of the Johnson plan were accurate. But last night one of the rebel leaders, Sir Iain Duncan Smith, welcome the change of heart. “This is very good news and I hope and believe it will be the start of a complete and thorough review of our dangerous dependency on China.”

时间: 2020-5-23 17:05

作者: hawk007

淡定淡定发表于2020-05-23 16:38:31 <p>前几年欧洲有些人反对用华为5G，爱立信和诺基亚还帮华为说话，现在诺基亚没资格说话了，爱立信站出...

放下，这次爱立信也不说了

时间: 2020-5-23 17:15

作者: 白衣剑客

淡定淡定发表于 2020-5-23 16:38
前几年欧洲有些人反对用华为5G，爱立信和诺基亚还帮华为说话，现在诺基亚没资格说话了，爱立信站出来。

现在谁还敢帮28说话，美国都这么大力度了

时间: 2020-5-23 17:25

作者: lovebugzhang

枫叶荻花秋瑟瑟发表于 2020-5-23 12:03
可以将美帝、英国强制退役的设备运回来，利用其中的零部件，也可为国内运营商做备件

你这话也太low了吧

时间: 2020-5-23 18:36

作者: 枫叶荻花秋瑟瑟

slayerafei 发表于 2020-5-23 13:14
卖出去的东西所有权还归菊厂?

帮助处理电子垃圾，说不定还能挣钱

时间: 2020-5-23 18:43

作者: kokata

就美国人这折腾来折腾去，也没哪个企业敢用菊厂的东西，建到一半说禁用了，哪个运营商经得起这种折腾？

时间: 2020-5-23 19:33

作者: master123

“China has been accused of not being transparent about the early phases of the disease”。
欲加之罪，何患无辞。谁还说商业合同与政治无关？

时间: 2020-5-23 20:34

作者: CTUSER

kokata 发表于 2020-5-23 18:43
就美国人这折腾来折腾去，也没哪个企业敢用菊厂的东西，建到一半说禁用了，哪个运营商经得起这种折腾？

就是心理战，故意制造不确定性。

时间: 2020-5-23 20:49

作者: slayerafei

淡定淡定发表于 2020-5-23 16:38
前几年欧洲有些人反对用华为5G，爱立信和诺基亚还帮华为说话，现在诺基亚没资格说话了，爱立信站出来。

吃相难看的时候可没想着别人，现在想起让别人说话，不合适吧

时间: 2020-5-23 22:02

作者: jnjn

hawk007 发表于 2020-5-23 17:05
放下，这次爱立信也不说了

E///这10%的份额，会不会亏本

时间: 2020-5-23 22:04

作者: tianchao88

HWZTEALUERCSNSN 发表于 2020-5-23 09:25
爱立信也滚

菊花滚才好呢。
菊花残，坑中华

时间: 2020-5-23 22:12

作者: ahua_23

我也是支持国产，不过华为确实竞争力太强了，体量远大于其他几家，如果完全市场竞争，根本不是华为对手，就像一个50KG的人和一个200KG的人PK。估计这也是美帝等压制他的原因吧。
在国内行业生态里面，华为体量也是巨大，经常华为要进入某领域，里面的厂商都瑟瑟发抖的感觉。其实这样的竞争格局对产业持续发展和创新并不一定是好事。一个行业还是多一两个巨头相互竞争共同进步比较好，老大和其他厂商实力悬殊太大，最后很容易走向一家独大。不见得是好事。

时间: 2020-5-24 07:00

作者: hbnygvmj1234

本帖最后由 hbnygvmj1234 于 2020-5-24 07:05 编辑

ahua_23 发表于 2020-5-23 22:12
我也是支持国产，不过华为确实竞争力太强了，体量远大于其他几家，如果完全市场竞争，根本不是华为对手，就 ...

同一个班里，学习不好的自己不努力，怪那个学习好的？
然后说我在文科里拿第一就好了，你在理科里呆着就行，不要学文科，要不我的第一就被你夺去了？

如果把一个班级当一个国，不要忘了还有其他学习好又拿大棒的班级（特别是“美”班级），而且现在可以自由串班，你认为那个在文科里呆着的不思进取的还能舒服几天？
最关键的是，学习好的那个人在别的班级打压下，还帮助自己班级的其他学生提高水平（培养上下产业链）。即便给原来当第一的带来压力，但是带来的是文科的更高水平和整体的更进一步。我们着眼的是整个班级，而绝不是那个原先呆在温柔窝里当文科第一的那个人。

时间: 2020-5-24 08:16

作者: 煤锅

美国是一个个法案锁死你虽然感觉慢慢的但是是致命的

时间: 2020-5-24 08:30

作者: digfact

hbnygvmj1234 发表于 2020-5-24 07:00
同一个班里，学习不好的自己不努力，怪那个学习好的？
然后说我在文科里拿第一就好了，你在理科里呆着就 ...

学习好的让其他同学无法学，把国际班的学生也消灭了，现在别人家长上门来报仇了。

时间: 2020-5-24 23:36

作者: pwgate

digfact 发表于 2020-5-24 08:30
学习好的让其他同学无法学，把国际班的学生也消灭了，现在别人家长上门来报仇了。

真是见不得人好。

时间: 2020-5-24 23:42

作者: 云中云

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时间: 2020-5-25 10:09

作者: xuqz

短期与长期计划结合

时间: 2020-5-25 10:45

作者: hj964

深圳普通用户发表于 2020-5-23 10:30
E的那点份额和它的报价，他们本身也不是很care了。你们做事做得太绝了，自己吃香的喝辣的，别人汤都不给一 ...

菊花在国内确实太飞扬跋扈了，搞的走自己的路，让很多公司都无路可走，这不是一家优秀的企业应该做的事情！

时间: 2020-5-25 11:20

作者: jsptpd_dryy

新的冷战明确已经来了

时间: 2020-5-25 11:25

作者: pan026854

主子说话不算数的后果，自找。

时间: 2020-5-25 11:26

作者: gxj760998

枫叶荻花秋瑟瑟发表于 2020-5-23 12:03
可以将美帝、英国强制退役的设备运回来，利用其中的零部件，也可为国内运营商做备件

太low了，乞丐一样的行为

时间: 2020-5-25 11:32

作者: karfunkelwang8

HWZTEALUERCSNSN 发表于 2020-5-23 08:55
爱立信和诺鸡鸭滚熊出去吧

跟爱立信诺基亚有鸡毛关系。成天扯淡

时间: 2020-5-25 11:35

作者: karfunkelwang8

HWZTEALUERCSNSN 发表于 2020-5-23 09:25
爱立信也滚

你特么把你名字爱立信阿狼去掉

时间: 2020-5-25 12:41

作者: Ebates

这消息,也是看到了,不好意思发,怕站错队

时间: 2020-5-25 13:17

作者: EmergentRecruit

HWZTEALUERCSNSN 发表于 2020-5-23 08:55
爱立信和诺鸡鸭滚熊出去吧

义和拳

时间: 2020-5-25 14:45

作者: TTU

明年川王还干么？

时间: 2020-5-25 15:59

作者: 考拉不是骆驼

嗯哼

时间: 2020-5-25 16:01

作者: 考拉不是骆驼

hj964 发表于 2020-5-25 10:45
菊花在国内确实太飞扬跋扈了，搞的走自己的路，让很多公司都无路可走，这不是一家优秀的企业应该做的事情 ...

菊厂向来都是走自己的路让别人无路可走，受到制裁也是活该。

时间: 2020-5-25 16:28

作者: awayz

唉，走着瞧吧。。。

时间: 2020-5-25 22:05

作者: 穿裤衩的狗

冷战再临了

时间: 2020-5-29 16:57

作者: wly257091

时间: 2020-5-29 17:41

作者: 清河人

hj964 发表于 2020-5-25 10:45
菊花在国内确实太飞扬跋扈了，搞的走自己的路，让很多公司都无路可走，这不是一家优秀的企业应该做的事情 ...

优秀的企业都这样，不让混日子的有日子混，正能量

时间: 2020-5-29 18:27

作者: mryuri

我觉得最近真的可以拳打美丽见脚踢不列颠口啐加拿大...

时间: 2020-5-29 18:30

作者: 清河人

mryuri 发表于 2020-5-29 18:27
我觉得最近真的可以拳打美丽见脚踢不列颠口啐加拿大...

口啐这个好，你那手

时间: 2020-5-29 20:47

作者: H11522

三十年河东，三十年自强。国货当自强！

时间: 2020-5-30 10:15

作者: toc

TTU 发表于 2020-5-25 14:45
明年川王还干么？

大概率胜选。
就算换民住档，也是一样的干菊花。

时间: 2020-6-5 08:10

作者: zlk_zlk

HWZTEALUERCSNSN 发表于 2020-05-23 08:55:37 爱立信和诺鸡鸭滚熊出去吧

义和团？？？

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